BOARD OF PUBLIC UTILITIES
Regular Session
May 21, 2025, 5:30 pm

Los Alamos County, NM
Council Chambers

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Okay. Good evening. Call to order this May 21st, 2025 meeting.

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Board of Public Utilities? Welcome, everyone, here this evening.

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Thank you for being here. We will start with public comment. Is there any Public comment on matters not otherwise on the agenda this evening.

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I don't see any in chambers. Do we have anyone online for public comment?

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Thank you, Chair Gibson. For members of the public who are joining us tonight on Zoom, when Chair Gibson calls for public comment, please use the raise hand function. If you're participating by phone.

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Press star 9 to raise your hand. Anyone wishing to make public comment right now should raise their Zoom hand.

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I don't see any hands raised, Chair Gibson. Thank you very much.

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Okay, moving on to approval of agenda. Um, I would like to pull items A, C, and E.

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From the consent agenda. And although Abe, which is, uh, minutes, is really more board business, I think, just for simplicity, we'll just move everything into Department of Business, so that we'll deal with it right after the consent agenda.

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Uh, does anyone else have any other changes to the agenda that they would like to this evening?

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Okay, is there a motion to approve the agenda? Has amended.

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So I'll move to approve the agenda as amended. Thank you.

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I second. Okay. Moved and seconded that we approve the agenda as amended. All in favor, show of hands.

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All opposed? Motion passes 5-0.

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Now, we move to the consent agenda. Um, so we have items 4B and 4D remaining.

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Is there a motion to approve? Oh, I'm sorry, you're right. Thank you. Um… Glad somebody's keeping me honest here.

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The, uh… page 5 of the agenda, doc, there is a statement regarding the closed session And I presume, Mr. Havener, that you are now prepared to make that motion. I'd be happy to.

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See the trouble you get in. I move that the Board of Public Utilities approve the following statement for inclusion in the minutes.

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The matters discussed in the closed session on May 7th, 2025 were limited only to those topics specified in the notice of the closed session.

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And no action was taken on any matter during the closed session.

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Second. Thank you. Okay, in the statement regarding closed session has been moved and seconded.

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Any discussion? All in favor, again, show of hands.

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All opposed? Motion passes 5-0. Now we'll move to the consent agenda.

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Any further… anything else that anyone wants to pull at this point?

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If not, is there a motion to approve the items 4B and 4D on the consent agenda?

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I move that the Board of Public Utilities approve the items on the consent agenda As amended, i.e. Exclusively 4B and 4D, and that the motions in the staff reports be included in the minutes for the report… for the record.

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Thank you. Is there a second?

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Second. Okay. Uh, moved and seconded that we do approve the consent agenda as amended.

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Any discussion? Seeing none, uh… Richard, would you please call the roll?

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Board Member Holmesworth. Yes. Member Hevner? Yes. Member Knockley? Yes. Member Schrawberg? Yes. Member Gibson? Yes.

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Okay, motion passes 5-0. Um, that takes us to the three items that were deferred from the consent agenda.

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The first is… Item 4A, approval of the board minutes for the April meetings. It's on page of our agenda doc, and I pulled it just for the to make sure that we got the dates correct in here, so… I will move that the Board of Public Utilities approve the

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Minutes of the April 2nd and April 16th, 2025, Um, meeting… as present… as presented.

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Is there a second? I second. Thank you. Any discussion?

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Okay, all in favor? All opposed? Motion passes 5-0.

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Item… what was 4C on the consent agenda is approval of the DOELAC resource pool budget for fiscal years 2026.

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In 2027. There were a couple of issues with what was published in the agenda doc.

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So you have, um, a handout on your, uh, on your DS.

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It has… two changes. One is a different motion.

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To take into account the fact that there is no power pool after the 1st of January.

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So, uh, 2026, so we're… Um, approving this kind of contingent on They're being an agreement, and no changes in… or any We're assuming a set of terms that we don't know for sure yet are Correct. Also, what was published in the agenda doc was actually

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Last year's… 2025 and 2026.

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Um, budgets, so what's on your agenda, Doc, has the correct years 26 and 27.

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Um, and it's the same, I'm told. Uh, that, uh, we were briefed on two weeks ago.

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Uh, Joanne, you might want to comment on that. So that people aren't hurrying up trying to read new numbers here. Okay.

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Yes, uh, Chair Gibson and members of the board. There was no changes to the original budget that we presented to you in, um, April.

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Um, it was approved on Monday, um, through the ECA. Um, is that…?

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Oh, the ECA Operating Committee on Monday morning. So there was no changes from them as well.

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Okay, uh, is anyone… want any further presentation on the substance here?

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Since we have heard it before. Right.

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That being the case Um, I will ask for public comment on this one.

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Is there any public comment in chambers? Is there any public comment online? I don't see any in chambers.

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Chair Gibson, I see no hands raised again. Okay, thank you. All right, um… This is what happens when you ask a lawyer to revise a motion.

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Tom being paid by the word, I guess, like lawyers often are accused of.

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Tried to earn his pay, so would someone like to read the motion that was on the DS tonight?

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Sure. I move that the Board of Public Utilities recommend approval of the 2026-2027 Resource Pool Budget as presented.

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With the understanding that the current electric coordination agreement, ECA, approved in 1985, And modified 24 times since then, is expected to be replaced by an updated modern contemporaneous ECA Before the recently amended ECA extension ends on December 31st, 2025, and that the 2026-2027 resource pool budget being recommended here is contingent and dependent upon

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The terms and conditions of the future ECA, which is unknown at this time.

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Which may require a future amendment to the 2026-2027 resource pool budget that is recommended here.

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And I moved to forward the 2026-2027 resource pool budget as presented to County Council for their review and approval.

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Second. Okay, thank you.

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Is there any discussion?

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Seeing none… Richard, would you please call the roll?

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Board Member Hollingsworth? Yes. Member Hevner? Yes. Member Knockley? Yes.

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Member Stromberg? Yes. Member Gibson? Yes. A motion passes 5-0.

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That brings us to item 4E, which is… approval of a task order for the EBICU hydroelectric Plant Firewall and Office Project.

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Um, which is on page 77 of our agenda doc. And… The, uh… James, you got younger. James Martinez filling in for James Allert.

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Go ahead. Chair Gibson and members of the committee, um… Before I bring, uh, approval of a task order number 5, For the AbbeQ Hydroelectric plant. Um… Just a little background.

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Uh, about year, year and a half ago. We had, um… what would you call it? An electrical… failure at the plant, or one of the MCC's, um, exploded out there.

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Um, so we… We, um… contracted with the loss prevention agency, um, StarTech, following that incident.

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Um, they went out. Examined the area, and… um, told us, um… looked at the fire risk and gave us a mitigation.

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Recommendation for this facility. Excuse me. Um… So, in that report, I don't know if you had a chance to dive into it, but they had 3 recommendations One of them was to do, like, a concrete barrier wall outside of the facility.

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Um, the other, um… Can't quite remember what the second one was.

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But the third was gonna be the less costly… well, I'm sorry, the second one was to… move the outside transformer further away, which would require some structural engineering, making sure that Um, moving the equipment outside of the building would be able to be, um.

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Placed further, um… about 25 feet away from the facility.

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Um. Just contracting with a structural engineer and moving that size of equipment would be very costly.

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So the third option was to, um, put two layers of 5 eighths gypsum board.

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Overlapping each other. Um, so that was the option that we chose Um, which will require us to remove the outside panel of the facility.

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Got… got, um, outside, um, gypsum board and replaced it with new two sheets, 5 eighths thick.

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Um, gypsum were to give it that, um… Um, fire safety.

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With this project, we also wanted to include some additions to the admin space, um, just giving more space to the folks that work there.

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And then, um, also, uh, a concrete pad. In the inside of the facility, um, where they store some of the equipment. We have a septic tank that's in the area, so… Just giving it a concrete top for when they move equipment or place stuff in there, it, you know, it gives it an added…

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Safety, um, on top of that septic tank. So, um… And also including a restroom addition in there as well for the folks that work there, so…

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The project was budgeted for fiscal year 2025 in the amount of $350,000.

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However, this project that came in with a total amount of 409,200… 409,207.

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$1.95, um… with the gross receipts tax. We needed a $53,000 more, so… Um, we're also… What I mentioned here is that we would… utilize some of the Eduardo Penstock pipe… bypass valve, uh, funding.

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Um, we had that… in this CIP, um, in the amount of $95,000, Being that we're currently running Elvado.

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Um, we don't, um… We don't want to… take down the facility now that we're producing electricity, so we would prefer to postpone this this work for Elvado, and utilize that funding, uh, at this point for the Um, to mitigate that fire.

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Fire danger, and um… And also address some… some space for the admin folks there.

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Um… With that… Um… Let's see… oh, I guess, of that 95,000, we would use the… 59,207 to… to shore up what… what we're needing.

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To fill those task order, so… Um, that would bring us to the total of $409,207.95.

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And… I stand for questions.

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Thank you. Questions, Eric? Thanks, Chair Gibson. So, um, reading that there's a fire danger, what kind of oil is in that transformer? Is it mineral oil? Is it FR3?

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Vegetable oil. Um, that I am not entirely sure. I think… Mineral oil? Is mineral oil, so… Uh, were there discussions concerning replacing mineral oil with FR3?

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That I do not… I… do not know. And I… and I'm not necessarily a fan of it, I've done that plenty of times in the past, and… It seems like if you do that, you… You give, like, a 3-year, uh, death sentence to your transformer, and it ends up blowing up anyway in about 3 years.

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Um, if you… the Elvado… As you're saying it's running. Can you tell me how many megawatts that's producing?

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Um. I believe we were… I'm… Let me answer that one, because Elvado, uh, was running At 2 megawatts, uh, it's shut down right now, today, so net zero, but we hope to have online in a couple weeks again.

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That is awesome. That is really cool. Okay, thank you very much, I appreciate it. Thank you, Fayla, for the update.

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I wasn't sure. Um. I'd like to also point out we have, um… to your point, Eric, um… We do have, uh, the… condition assessment that we're rolling out as well. It's Um, being bid at the moment, so… With that, we'd probably evaluate some of the other systems on both AbbeQ and Elvado, so maybe some of those things would be addressed in that report.

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Other questions? Yes, so since you're planning on taking about $60K out of the Elvado pen stock bypass valve.

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Um, that'll take that down to 30, you know, whatever, 35K or so.

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Um, what does that mean for that project? You say you can postpone it, but where's the… How's the money going to be made up? Is it just going to be borrowed from the future, or what? Um… I think, in doing so, we probably wanted to… we would want to move it to the following year.

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Um, I think at that point, would we… utilize funds, or we… would you… I don't know how that would work on our budgets, but… Board Member Knockley, we'd need to re-budget for it.

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Cost of O&M is part of the cost of power that's passed along through our Electric Coordination Agreement, so assuming we have a new one.

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Uh, we would re-budget the amount needed to do that project in fiscal year 27. Okay.

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Is it… how urgent is it that that be done? I did check with Ben Holbreak and He checked with his, uh.

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Manager there, and it can be deferred. The other thing was, uh.

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We anticipate that, uh. Lake levels might be drawn back down in 27, if we can get the dam refacing project back online.

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So, it's a pause, but… It can be deferred for a couple more years.

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Through questions… James, what really is the cause of this overrun? He said, we overran, but didn't really indicate why.

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So the… the cause… Um, I think mainly it was for the concrete pad, the concrete pad was about 60… $4,000.

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Um, so we did some… calculations on the thick… this thickness that it needed to be in its, um… We were calling for, like, a 5 or 6 inch thick pad with reinforcement.

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Um, with that, you know, just where the site… is, and delivering of the concrete, and then just the… the, um, the labor.

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Um, you know, that came in as a… Um, and then for structural concrete that came in at a hefty price, so, um, that was what pushed it over the budget, was the concrete pad.

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I'm not sure I followed completely. Was the pad… In addition to the project scope, or was it Uh, you re-engineered and decided it needed to be a more robust pad.

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It was, uh, an addition to the project that uh, staff, um, was requesting.

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Okay. Um.

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And was there a contingency in the original budget? That would… that… should have covered this, or covered most of it anyway.

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Um. That I wouldn't be able to answer. I know that probably they're… at one point, there probably was, but with… Um, current prices and the rise of… cost today. I think some of these… Budget numbers probably need to be revisited as well.

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For some of our projects, so… Um… Let's… I'm beginning to wonder… If we need to… think about budgeting projects differently than we have.

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Because we seem to be… running into a lot of increases in materials costs.

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In particular, it sounds like this had an increase in scope also. Maybe that was the main driver, but… Um, the, uh… Um, you know, we're used to the idea of CPI-type inflation.

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But the, um… there's inflation in other materials that tends to be a good deal higher.

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And I'm wondering… Whether that's something that should be taken into account when we project project budgets.

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With a larger contingency or something. I'm not sure what the right way to do it is.

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There's always the risk that if you increase the project budget, the work will expand to fill the… the work or the bids.

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One of the two will expand to fill the available budget.

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Uh, the… but, uh. Um, that is a… you know, it's hard to manage a tight ship when every time a project… I shouldn't say every time, but many times a project comes in And it's over because costs have gone up. Well.

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After that's happened a few times, we ought to be anticipating that.

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And figuring out how to budget appropriately for it. The other thing that I would like to mention, too, is… We did want to… Get some other budget numbers and… check to see if these values were actually valid. We reached out to

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Um, two other, um. Contractors that we have on calls with.

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And one reply that they didn't want to… put a bid in. The other, um, we just never heard anything back from the other contractor, and we sent multiple emails asking if they're interested, so… Um, and phone calls, so we've never received, uh.

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Um, two additional bids, so the only one that was… Um, I guess respondent was GME.

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Wonder what it says about Our on-call contractors if they don't even return a call.

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I mean, I can understand them deciding not wanting to bid on a given project.

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It's concerning, because We have on-call contractors so that we can… make things happen quickly sometimes, and if they're not responsive.

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That would be a concern. Okay, um… All right, any other guests? I just wanted to pull that thread a bit more. Sure. I guess I just don't understand, um, maybe I missed something, and I apologize if I did. Um, so…

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You had a… an assessment done by StarTech. That gave recommendations for risk mitigation for fire, and you chose, you know, one aspect of that, and so forth.

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And then that happened first, right? And then you decide on a… on a plan, a design, okay. Um, I guess I don't understand, um… what caused the need for the scope change and the addition of this pad?

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Um, and were there any other… design changes that caused this overrun.

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Um, yeah, sorry. Yeah, so originally we did have, um, the intent to do the admin addition. Um… So, we figured at this point, if we were going to do the, um… The fire mitigation project, we were going to also do the admin, um.

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Addition, and then from there. That's where we went out to the site, looked at what we needed to design for, and then The request was, can we add add this path, so, um… Okay, that's probably kind of lumped into the whole project, but it was an issue. Slightly backwards.

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Yeah. So that's for the restroom? I'm sorry, I'm just… No, I just wanted to add about the pad. Currently out there, there's Crush Rock, and so when they do get deliveries.

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It's not very stable, um, you know, and so… it's hard to move that equipment around when we get deliveries on gravel.

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So, you know, they have to rent a forklift, and… move stuff over the gravel onto concrete, and then move the equipment down to the hydro equipment that they're replacing, so… Um, I looked at as more of… You know, they… it's a…

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More of a safety issue was incorporated with the design, if you read the report, it included the concrete pad as part of the fire mitigation. It just looked to be a better safer facility when it's all done.

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Um, this project's been… on the CIP for years, actually. Initially, we looked at locating the office outside the facility, um.

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But with our land lease, with the Corps of Engineers. The soil stability around that area of the hydro plant.

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If you've ever been out there, there's… You know, as many stories below ground, and… Uh, to build an office next to the… hydro facility, the soil's not stable, because it's been backfilled.

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Compacted, and it's just not… Not a situation we could build on, or get a… agreement with the Corps to add a building.

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So, um… In light of the, you know, the arc flash we had last year, or in… the report we got, um… kind of put this whole package together. It has increased in scope.

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Um, but I think we found a way to… still get the project done. It's a needed project.

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Okay, so that's the shift that change that happened during process, right? Okay, okay. I don't think we're questioning the need for it, just wondering… Why wasn't it predicted, or… Yeah, it wasn't in the… it wasn't in the budget for…

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Uh, you know, when it was put together, that… you know, it's off by 6, 8 months from when we do our budgeting.

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Yeah, we did receive the geotechnical report. And, like Philo said, yeah, they just mentioned that it wasn't stable enough. Um… Uh, we looked at… I think mobile home… Facilities to place on the site, but that limited the… the, um, sizes of the trucks and delivery equipment that could get out there, so…

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Um, I think the most feasible option was to added into… inside the building.

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Okay… Is there any public comment on this?

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Matter. And in chambers, any online? Thank you.

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Is there further discussion or a motion?

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Sure, I'll go ahead and… I move that the Board of Public Utilities recommend the award of task order number AGR22-18C for the Abiqu Hydroelectric Plant Firewall and Office Project to GME General Building LLC with a base amount of $355,833.

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And a contingency in the amount of $53,375.95 for a total project amount of $409,207, and 95 cents.

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Plus applicable gross receipts tax and forward to County Council for approval.

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Okay, a second. Thank you. Any further discussion?

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Okay, um… I guess I'll vote for it reluctantly. I think there's… We… we need to do a… a more deliberate job of… either predicting our costs to put in the budget.

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Um… And I know that's not a perfect science, but at least getting closer.

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Recognizing the kinds of increases that we… have been consistently seen, or… Uh, managing… projects to cost.

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One of the two, somehow. We may discuss that further at some point.

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So, okay. If there's no other comments, Richard, please call the roll.

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Remember Hollingsworth? Yes. Member Hevner? Yes. Member Knockley? Yes. Member Stromberg?

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Yes, Member Gibson. Yes. Motion passes 5-0.

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That moves us quickly through the presentations, public hearings, and the rest of department business?

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And, uh, we get to board business. Under Chair's report.

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Um, the first item is, uh. If you haven't heard already that, uh.

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Council last evening sentenced Mr. Stromberg. I mean, reappointed Mr. Stromberg to another 5-year term on the Board of Public Utilities.

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Either congratulations or condolences, depending on how you look at it.

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Um, we're pleased, but Um, anyway, congratulations on… reappointment, and… and we appreciate your willingness to serve again.

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Thank you. The, um… Um, the only other thing I have to say is… Um, well, about 10 days ago, I had the opportunity to fly over the… both the, uh, um… PV sites up north of Farmington.

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The one that exists in that empty spot of land that we're… Waiting to, uh, start building on.

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Uh, there's not much there right now in terms of I mean, we have no idea what archaeological sites or whatever might be there, but there's… It's a pretty, uh… Um, desolate piece of ground, actually.

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And then, over the lakes, Navajo Lake actually has quite a bit of water in it.

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But of course, that doesn't do us any good. It's just an observation, then… Heron Lake is practically empty.

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Elvado's got enough… got something in it, and apparently enough to generate a little bit with.

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And AbiQ's a long ways down also. It looks pretty pathetic for this time of the year.

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I mean, I'm sure Ben has all the numbers and can tell us exactly if we really wanted to know how much Water is in those lakes, but uh… just on an eyeball view of it, it's pretty depressing.

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And I was over the same area In March, and it doesn't look like it's improved much in that two months, when we should be getting a lot of runoff.

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Um, so, just an observation. And that's all I have from the Chair's report Do we have any members' reports?

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Jen. Yeah, well, I recently attended the luncheon for various county board members.

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And, uh, presented the BPU report, um, that spanned, um, our regular session meeting on March 19th all the way through.

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Um, our work session and closed sessions of May 7th. And I found it to be a very enlightening and interesting, uh, experience. I would recommend to any of us here.

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Um, to get to here and, uh, from other board members of other boards in the county.

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Um, what goes on. And, uh, so you get a bigger picture of, um, county activity.

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Um, and anyway, it was very useful and quite interesting, actually, so… Good.

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Thanks for representing us there. Um, you're doing the farmer's market this month, too. I believe it's tomorrow.

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I thought it was, but it was kind of confirming, so… Yeah. The, uh, at least it looks like you'll have pleasant weather for it.

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Okay, any other board reports? If not, we'll move to Utility Manager's report.

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Yes, Chair and Board Members. Um, I've been… in contact with Elk Ridge in the YES communities, and they did receive two bids to construct new gas distribution line.

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Um, and they're a decent price. Uh, they're in the process of review and awarding the bid, and And, uh, we'll schedule a coordination meeting with our team in early June.

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The work that we're doing is upgrading the gas meters, uh.

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To the newer style model while we're in there replacing everything. We want to get that up-to-date.

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And those funds are budgeted in our CIP fund. And… And our recruitment side, we filled quite a few positions this past month.

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We have a new senior office specialist, uh, next week, we have a power system operator, Apprentice, and a data analyst, uh, joining our team, as well as four engineering interns.

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Um, other… other, uh… things with the data analysts. We're gonna share that between our admin and billing.

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Department with the conservation program. By having the data analysts do some understand the numbers, we're hoping to be able to inform customers if they're out of range on their billing, and… You know, who's the top 10%?

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Type of user, that type of thing will help with our conservation.

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And, uh, then we held some interviews for engineering associates. Um, utility locator, technician, billing service specialist, and… Uh, another power system operator. These are all retirements or promotion.

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Vacancies that we're trying to fill. They're still in the very stage of recruitment. It's after we interview, we have to do a lot of reference checking, and HR does background checks, etc.

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Um, he also… our pilot, uh. Alternative work schedule for the crews that follow the daylight savings time period has begun.

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Uh, with the four 10-hour days, and the crews that are, uh.

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Participating in this pilot program is a gas, water, sewer. They're split into two different 10-hour work groups where one covers Monday through Thursday, the other's Tuesday through Friday.

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And, uh, our wastewater treatment plants, uh. In the hydroelectric crews are doing the same.

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And, uh, for the Skihill water line, uh. We're making really great progress on trenching.

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For the line up the mountain. They have this, uh, trenching equipment that, uh.

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It's basically a big arm with teeth and, like, a large chainsaw, but… designed for rock, and it goes… extends down 5 feet and chews up the… the tough material, and uh… We did not encounter as much rock, like the hard rock that we anticip…

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So, we have some savings in that, and we're working on a change order to continue that rock trencher up the mountain.

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For the Phase 2 portion Uh, because the mobilization of that equipment's kind of costly, and so while it's here, let's… If we can afford it with the Phase 1 budget, we're gonna… continue that work. The Forest Service and the state agreed that we could do that.

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Who get, you know, reimbursed through this grant, uh, for the same.

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So, uh, we're in the… busy working on getting that change order through.

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And, uh, the last piece of that is, uh, the FEMA had a request for information. We've had that into them for a month We're supposed to get our comments back.

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The end of this week, if… if we're gonna be successful in that for the electrical undergrounding.

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Uh, so more to come, I hope, in that, uh, grant program Ben and I attended the Energy Community Alliance, the other ECA, uh.

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And, uh, um… there is a lot of positive energy about new nuclear technology.

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Uh, it is all the industry advocates for that, but it… the… one of the speakers, David Wright, the chair of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, was there talking about their review of four active projects, and… And they had 22 in the pipeline.

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Uh, and they're very committed to… Making timely reviews. They're actually talking about recruiting staff to… to do those reviews.

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Now, granted, the applicants pay… make payment, right, for… permit reviews or application reviews.

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Um, so that… I thought that was encouraging, though, that the sentiment is… get something done. And, uh, learned that, uh, from that discussion at New Scales.

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Has their 77 megawatt up rate, which board's familiar with from past projects, uh, they anticipate awarding that in June.

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And then, uh, there's other projects, Terra PowerPower was… last… the year before was… moving up the ladder as far as feasibility of a project.

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Um, there's a Longmont Energy project that's… in Texas, in Kairos power.

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Um, the Kairos power, I thought was interesting, because they're… They're spread out, I think it's in Ohio, where they're actually gonna build it, but the, um… the salt production facilities, actually, in Albuquerque.

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So, um, you know, so that we're… we're getting some technology even within our state, that are supporting that industry, so… So it was an interesting conference.

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Um, no real breakthroughs yet, but… I think it's good to kind of keep track of what the industry's doing, and… Um, there's definitely, I think, with the… If the slice goes through, there's a… 20 megawatt, uh, option for new nuclear project, potentially, so we… we want to keep track of that industry

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This month, we had the UAMs, uh, they didn't have a formal project meeting.

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Um, they actually had a meeting with the board regarding, uh.

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Different membership levels, and they're calling it all requirements membership. And this is primarily due to, um, getting into the… I sent the board out a little information about the energy day ahead market, um… And UAMPs, because they're in Pacificore area, are going to be participating in that.

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And to participate in that, you have to have resource adequacy, do a lot of resource planning.

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All these little pieces need to come together. Um, and you can't just do it individually, you need a little more, um, cohesive planning and And, uh, um, you know, as far as doing your, uh.

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You know, aggregating all your load forecasts, power scheduling, and just participating in that market.

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Um, so they're looking at a more enhanced membership support level.

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I don't think it's something we would participate in at this time, just from what I learned today.

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Um, but I, you know, I… I think Chair Gibson's always asking me, what's the basic membership level? It's $620 a year to belong to UAMPS.

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Uh, it's not much, but then, um, if you want to participate in their resource.

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Project team goes and looks for various projects. We're paying, uh, $15,529 per year for that.

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And then if we subscribe to a project, then there's development costs, so… Uh, right now, we're just in the two geothermal projects out of the resource, um, pool there, or the resource, uh, project. So, just wanted to give you an update on that.

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They're gonna have more, um, information in June. And at their annual conference.

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How much would it be to participate in the day ahead, Market? You said it was an enhanced level. Well, so that's a… That's, um… something everyone's trying to get their arms around, so don't know. The other piece for us is.

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P&m, I think, as I mentioned, is, uh… Considering moving the EDAM, Now, up at, uh, Laramie River Station.

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That, uh… project is actually on the, uh, S… PP, uh, day-ahead market type of program, so there's different ones.

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In the region, um… We would need to play with whatever P&M chooses, because they're… our balancing authority, so… Um, they haven't formally announced it, but Nick and Ben are meeting with them.

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Uh, you know, get status updates on. Where it may go. Um, then… Definitely, I believe, when we do our IRP update, it's going to be more robust.

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Type of report, not just you know, loads and resource type of report. We're gonna need one that consider, do we want to participate in day… in the EDAM, if that's what's selected?

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Where is their transmission availability? Where is there risk to transmission? That's the newest thing, is, you know, P&M's shutting down One leg of their transmission due to, you know, fire.

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Potential for wildfire. So, um, it… I think we need more of a plan.

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Once we get our ECA renewed, that's what we need to start exploring.

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Pretty quickly, uh, once… once we get that agreement in place.

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Um, so… Uh, yeah, that… that covers that item. Number 6.

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Then, I just wanted to update the board, you know, Burns McDonald, you're gonna have a presentation in two weeks on that.

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On the draft of their, uh, electrification plan, and I want to assure you that they've been coordinating with Stantec on the fleet conversion study as well.

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And, uh, um, you know, I know the board approved, uh.

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The ChargePoint contract, uh, and we did get the 6EV chargers, level 2 chargers awarded.

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In, uh, Public Works has an on-call to reconfigure the parking lot a little bit with an ADA parking space for one of the charge point chargers, so that we're in compliance with that.

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And, uh, our staff installed a charger down at the Piedrito Cliff site with a RFID reader, so it's… goes with a vehicle, you… you, you know, scan that, you're able to charge the county vehicle, but it's not open to the public. So, that's a cheaper installation.

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And, uh, works well in that when it's for dedicated fleet vehicles. So, currently, uh, DPU has 4 EVs.

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And we have two in next year's budget. We have, uh, more than the rest of the county altogether.

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So, um… So, yeah, we're meeting the county skull plus Um, and then… The other piece, there's… the, uh… It's called Amnerd, is it?

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Energy, mineral, and natural resource department with the state, they're holding a lot of different meetings. Chair Gibson told me about the Climate Action Plan meeting, so I attended that.

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There's also a grid resiliency meeting. You know, they're looking at things, you know, from wildfire response to high temperatures, a lot of switching equipment gets impacted when temperatures get to 105 and above, and, you know, bottom half of our state.

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Does have temperatures like that frequently. Uh, and then, um, also learned about a couple grant opportunities that will be released later this summer on grid resiliency that we could, uh, hopefully apply to our EA5, A power line replacement.

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That's in design right now, it's almost completed, and so we're hoping By having a shovel-ready project, we can… score well in that.

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Foxtail Flats, I know Chair Gibson mentioned there's nothing out there, and… I… that's what we understand as well.

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Uh, the… but we have… I learned that they are actively the Tribal Historical Preservation Office is actively reviewing the application, but did not give us a timeline of when the the review will be completed And, uh, also, uh, you know, as Chair Gibson mentioned, the drought conditions still exist, and

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Uh, through the San Juan… CHAMA project, uh, we… are only anticipating half of the allotment this year. Last year, we got full allotment.

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And, uh, so… the real charm of the Safety Association, uh.

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It will purchase the allotment we do get this year. Which we're anticipating about 600 acre-feet.

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And then we talked about hydroelectric generation. Uh, AbicQ, is right now at about 5 megawatts.

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Getting lower flows. I mentioned Elvado right now has none, but the week before, we're at 2. So… It will vary as… water needs vary.

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That's gonna run at the river, so… That's all I have at stand for any more questions.

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James, just a quick question. So, if PNM joins EDAM, will we have to follow them, or will we just have to consider? We'd have to consider. Consider, okay.

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So, question, do you have… Um, easily available. I mean, probably right now, but… you know, a plot of… how much the hydros have produced over the last 5 years, and what they're projected to produce.

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Um, you know, is there modeling of that? I think we can give you a model of… what it's produced, but projected is really based on snowpack.

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Um, so it's very… it varies by season. This is definitely one of the driest years I've seen in I mean, there's obviously gonna be lots of, um, statistical variability. Is there a trend line that can be pulled out of that?

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It's a good question. We could look into it. I think we could… If we took, uh, snow data.

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Over… in the past, you know, because we've had droughts, you know, 2003 comes to mind as a really bad drought year.

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Um, you know, we just got out of one for this winter season, so I think there's… there might be a way to look at some generation profiles.

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Over time might be useful to have for us to look at and think about how we want to prioritize investments. I'm not sure.

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I have that data in one… one place. So it's easy to convey.

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Um, it includes Elvado. Abiq and WAPA separately, so you can look at all three of them.

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Um, going back… 25 years. Uh… you… the general trend on hydropower, not necessarily those particular plants, but all of them together.

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Actually, it's been declining. Um, the last… 10, 11 years, the… the, uh, our hydro plants haven't generated nearly as much as they used to.

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It seems like there's… there are maintenance issues. That puts one plant or the other out of business for a while.

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There… that is plant issues, there are… dam and… and… and hydraulics issues.

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In addition to snowpack, et cetera, et cetera. But, uh, quite a bit of it actually has been you know, one way or another, either the dam or the plants have been Um, and not been able to produce up to

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Expectation for… I think that started about 2014, just kind of see for when you… You know, there's a year or two when Elvado wasn't producing much, and then there's another year or two when other… when… Something else was going on. But anyway, I have that information and can send it to you for the…

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For all of the hydro sources, easily. Yeah. I just want to add one… another thing that we've seen, too, is the City of Albuquerque is been using more of their surface water, and so they're not storing What they… they used to keep it all in AbbeQ as a reserve.

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And they've been using their surface water more, and trying to preserve their groundwater.

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Resources, so even just a shift in thinking of storage. Yeah.

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Head pressure makes a big difference, so we would like them to store water.

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If everyone had it. Yeah. There's a lot of growth there.

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Any other questions? Philo, you said, uh, you gave the name of the tribal office that's reviewing the Fonzie for the… for Foxtail Flats. I thought the tribe had finished, and now it was in BIA's hands.

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Is that a misreading on my part, or…? My understanding, this isn't.

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This is a BIA office. Oh, okay, alright. Okay.

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And so you did say, we don't know yet when they're going to release that. At one point, we sort of thought maybe it was going to be May, but… Yes, we're… More than halfway through. They haven't said which year.

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Okay, and have we heard anything… is there anything more on the third transmission line?

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Um, the only thing I do know is responded to several comments, uh… Um, but no, I… there's I… the only thing I think they're anticipating getting a Fonzie By the end of June, but I don't know for sure.

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And same question, do we know anything new? About Cove Fort.

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No, I don't have anything new. I didn't have any updates from UAMS this month.

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Okay… Anyone else?

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All right, we'll move on to Linda Madison, who is pinch-hitting for Anne Laurent this evening. Thank you for joining us, Linda.

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Thank you for having me. Um, Chair and members, just a couple, uh, quick items that I thought I would update you on.

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Um, the first would be that a really fun thing is our summer concerts start this Friday.

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So, if you don't have anything to do Friday night, please come out to Ashley Pond for that. That goes through Labor Day.

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And just remember that we also extend our bus service, so in case you want to ride the bus to and from the concert, you're able to.

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Another, uh, really fun thing is the ice rink. Permanent chiller.

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Was delivered, uh… Yesterday or today.

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Um, and I don't… I don't know if you guys are up-to-date on this whole saga, but we've been using a… We've been leasing a temporary chiller for the last couple years, and so this solution has been designed for us, for our ice rink.

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Um, and so it's a permanent solution, so it is being installed.

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Um, as we speak, and so it'll be operational for this season. So we anticipate that that's really going to improve the, um, quality of the ice, the ability of the Um, to be maintained for a longer period of time. Um, so that was exciting, and if you saw it coming up Main Hill, I guess it was kind of spectacular. First, the crane, and then

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The next day, the actual chiller. So, um, and then finally, um.

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Just wanted to let you know that the county has launched a new procurement portal. Um, this is really to… try to expand its vendor outreach, our vendor outreach, and encourage greater competition for public con… contracts, so it's like an e-procurement, so a vendor would register.

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Kind of indicate which, um. Kind of procurements they're interested in, maybe, like, by, um, service or, uh.

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Type or commodity, and then they're in… once they're in our system, then they'll automatically receive any IFBs or RFPs that fall in that category, and it just makes for a lot more, um, ease of… submitting their proposal and their bids. It's really helpful for us as

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The, um, internal, so we'll be able to get proposals all online.

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Have discussions, score, and all that, it'll be all contained in this system, so… That is, um, being launched, um, right now, and it's called Bonfire.

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Which, not to be confused with the bonfire company that is doing our broadband. So, um… So those are just a couple things that I thought of that you may be, um, interested in.

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Thank you. Sure. Anyone… But I'd stand for any questions. Yeah.

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We want to give Linda a hard time on her first fiscal year, or take it easy. Go ahead, Jen. I had a question about the New Jersey wall barriers that were here. Oh, of course! You know, is there a plan to have something, A, more permanent, and B, less… more aesthetically pleasing. Very good, very good question.

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Chair and members, um. As we've been known throughout the country, there has been having these incidents, and so at the beginning of the year.

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Pd and Public Works got together and tried to figure out a solution.

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And… and there's not something… there's nothing that we can do really quickly.

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So, um, in a really great, I think. I think it's a great, uh, cost-effective way to kind of protect our community. New Mexico DOT, we were asking New Mexico DOT about it. We were actually proposing, do we, um.

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Close one road of Trinity on Ashupon's side. Um, during the concerts. Um, and so in those discussions.

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Um, the Jersey Bears came up, and it turns out they needed a place… they had all these jersey barriers.

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They, you know, needed a place to store them, so they would give them to us free of charge. And so we said, we know where we can store them. So yes, we have heard loud and clear that they're ugly, and no one likes them.

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But it really is temporary, I will assure you Um, you know, there is the traffic safety study that's, um, happening along that stretch.

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Of Trinity Drive, and so the… as we do that project.

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Um, and that project will go to design fairly quickly. Very recently, we were kind of, um, our design estimates were higher than our budgeted amount, but we were able to get about, I think it's just over $2 million.

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Nmdot had some extra money, and so… Um, they were… they awarded us a grant, so that project will now definitely go forward, um, but as part of that design, there will be some permanent solution. It will probably be bollards.

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Some kind of bollards along that… um, stretch of, um… Of the Trinity Drive along Esthu Pont. So bear with us, like I said, um, it really is a safety thing, and we really, you know, a lot of us have been really

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You know, kept up at night thinking about what would happen, because when you go to those concerts, you do see all the people that And it's not really just for someone that's has ill will. It's… um, you know, someone has a medical incident, or something that

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Causes them to come off the road, it would be tragic.

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Maybe at one of the summer camps in the art program could maybe decorate them? So there is… so there… and I think everyone's seeing the thing, there is, um.

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And I… I won't steal Recreation's Thunder, but I believe there is some talk about Um, because the other thing is, you know, we are borrowing them, so we can't really, you know, paint them and change them.

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Um, but I believe they may be doing something with chalk. So, asking people to use chalk to create some beautiful… on the… on the pond side, so again, not on the… Sidewalk side, because that may be a little bit dangerous, so…

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So, bear with us, and there, I think there'll be something announced fairly soon.

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Awesome. The questions? No, we got a lot of ideas with chalk.

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Okay, thank you, Linda. Thanks for coming this evening.

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Okay, is, uh, our council liaison on?

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I'm here, can you hear me? Oh, I love it when things work. Thank you.

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Yes, we can.

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Um, thanks for… letting me attend by Zoom tonight, I appreciate it.

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I was actually… so, um, we had a council meeting last night, and I was gonna… talk about the, um, Jersey Barriers or Ashley Pond briefly, so I'm glad you asked that question, Member Hollingsworth.

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I'm glad Ms. Madison was there to address it. We did receive public comment at the start of last night's meeting.

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Inquiring about it, we've also received a few messages from the public.

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Um, and so, anyway, that did come up at last night's meeting.

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Um, moving on to the rest of last night's agenda, we have a public hearing.

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Um, to renew the lease with, um. The Dog Obedience Club That's on county-owned land, um… That was for an additional 5 years.

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So that happened. We've had an agreement with that organization since the early 1970s So that's a partnership that's still, I think, adding value to the entire community. Um, we received a, um, we had a public hearing for Phases 2 and 3 of the Denver Steels

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Waterline Replacement Project. Your very own James Martinez, who presented earlier tonight.

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Presented last night on behalf of DPU, And, um, handled a lot of questions I thought very well.

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And Council approved, um, that project. For $2.7 million, roughly speaking.

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Um, we… approved… a services agreement with a company called Leisure Pools.

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That's lead-sure Pools. Um… Um, for a project amount of about up to $2 million for resurfacing and other restoration and necessary deferred maintenance improvements.

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At the Aquatic Center. And this has been a project that the county staff have been working very hard on for some time to make sure that it's in good coordination.

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And communication. Um, with the users of the pool.

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And the Los Alamos High School swim teams and clubs and the coaches, etc.

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So, taking, um, everyone's needs and schedules and timelines and procurement.

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And, um, supply chain issues into account. Um, it's been determined that the critical path will include a timeline of starting the project in March of 2026, and concluding by October of 2026 to minimize impact to all the users of the pool. And this project will include the Olympic pool and the therapy pool, but not the

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You know, the recently… Um, built leisure pool.

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Um… some advantages of starting it now, though, and kind of, you know, approving the budget for it, or, you know, the allocation of funds for it.

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Was to maybe… to lock in the contractor. He's, um, out of Albuquerque, or this company's out of Albuquerque, and they're in high demand.

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And so in this way, we lock them in so that we can help make sure that we guarantee the schedule that we've partnered, you know, with our community members to achieve.

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Um, we then had a… Um, I thought a very good presentation, a quarterly financial overview, we're calling it, so this was for the third quarter of the current fiscal year.

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Um, I think a highlight of that was, um. Finance staff showing us a new interactive tool.

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Um, Ms. Madison, you can correct me, but I think it's called Open Finance?

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That's correct. It may change, but that's… no.

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Yeah, um, it… Oh, very good, no worries. Um, it's kind of like, you know, like, open government, open finance. It's interactive, you can, um… you can hit different links and just really take a deep dive.

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Into all the details of how funds are spent. And, um… I… I just… an interesting thing I made a note of is that, um.

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You can see where all of our payments go for vendors and contracts, and um… We had 88.7 million spent in vendor payments.

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Um, 46.8 million of that was for DPU, most of that being Electric, and mostly that being, um, with Mercuria. So that's how you can kind of do the layering and get into it, like, oh, it's a whole bunch in for a vendor, oh, but a big chunk of that's DPU, then, oh, a big chunk of that's electric.

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You can just keep kind of getting down into it. Um, you can see how payroll, you know, plays out with the different departments, etc.

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Um, so I thought that was really interesting, and I look forward to having another one at the, you know, at the conclusion of the fourth quarter, which will then kind of wrap up the whole fiscal year.

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We then received, um, I thought it was an outstanding presentation.

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On, um, kind of where we are with the community broadband network.

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And, um… just kind of where the vendor bonfire is with the design-build.

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On that, they are currently in Phase 1, the high-level design.

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Um, and then they're gonna be moving quickly, or soon, into the low-level design, and then with kind of an anticipated timeline to start construction in June.

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The low level, I'm sorry, the low-level design will begin in about April of 2026, with construction messing around June of 2026, so just about one year from now.

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Um… what else would it… let's see… and… and they also talked about how, you know, the 11-mile… middle mile that Samuel Defonso Um, is working on is on track, and progress is… good progress is being made there.

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Um… Those are kind of… so that's the main highlights for that.

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Um, oh no, I'm sorry, there's actually a really important part of the whole presentation, my bad.

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Was, um… you know, it's a $35 million capital improvement projects, CIP.

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Um, to most likely be funded with revenue… a 20-year revenue bonds.

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And that's all kind of being sorted out, and Ms. Madison.

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Or, um… Thomas, if you want to chime in, if I'm getting, you know, if I'm butchering any of this, or you got anything you want to embellish, please do.

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Um, on that part. But a key part is that, um, they wanted to make sure that council in the community understood that while we do have a contingency fund built into the $35 million budget for the community broadband.

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Um… That contingency fund… Which is about $5.6 million.

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Of that $35 million total. Could… could get, um… absorbed… If during the boring and drilling.

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Um, for put, you know, um… into the earth to put in the lines.

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Ends up being a lot more rock than… maybe, you know, anticipated.

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And, you know, every… they… they… the project planners know that rock is a big part of our geology and topography around here.

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Um, they've kind of budgeted for that will hit rock maybe up to about 50% of the time.

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And that means it will be a lot more labor-intensive and equipment intensive, and just a lot more costly to do that drilling.

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But the contingency can absorb those costs, so we'll be good, but if… if we hit really, really hard.

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Unpenetrable rock. More than about 50% of the time.

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We can run out of… sufficient contingency funds, and we will have to address that Um, and look for different… ways to… to get these lines installed. And, you know, attaching them to existing DPU power lines.

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Is one way, you know, going at an aerial approach, etc.

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So I hope I got that right, um… It was a really good presentation, but, um, a lot of details.

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And if anybody wants to embellish, please do. Um.

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And… Then we appointed Mr. Eric Stromberg by unanimous vote.

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To the BPU board, as you know. His new five-year term will start July 1st. We had three really great, enthusiastic, um… prepared applicants for this position.

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And we are super appreciative when people want to step up and be engaged.

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For such an important role such as this, um, but it just, you know, I think there was just unanimous consensus that Mr. Stromberg brings good skills to the table that are very beneficial right now.

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And then, in closing, I just want to announce that our Community Services Director As part of the county manager's update last night.

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Announced to us that they're going to be procuring and installing 4 new weather stations for the community.

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I think it was 3 in town, 1 in White Rock, like at Overlook Park, the golf course, um, Ashley Pond.

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I forget where the fourth is, um… that will provide us lightning alerts.

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So that we can get almost, like, real-time Um, alarms if lightning is imminent so people can get to safety Quickly. So that's kind of a new update.

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And I can answer any questions you all may have. Thank you for listening.

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Thank you. Any questions?

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I think we're gonna let you off easy tonight, Susie, and have a… Have a great trip!

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Thank you, I appreciate it. Oh, and since you mentioned that.

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Chair Gibson, um, um, Councillor David Rieger. Will be attending your next meeting on June 4th, your work session.

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Since I will be camping in California. I'm sorry, I'm going to miss some of the presentations, though. I'm bummed about the timing.

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But anyway, Councillor Riegers is going to be there in my place.

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Okay, thanks for arranging that.

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All right. Um, we'll move on then.

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Environmental Sustainability Board liaisons Report. Do we have either Shannon or Sue on… online?

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Okay, um, I can fill in a couple things here. So I went to the last meeting of that board.

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And, uh, um, our previous liaison has… actually has left the board.

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And it appears that the current board chair, Shannon Blair, or vice chair, Sue Barnes.

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We'll, uh, will be our liaison. Uh, going forward. Uh, so we should have representation Um, as we move along, I hope so.

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There was a night of my thought considerable interest that was discussed that evening.

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Um, the, uh, turned out that the airport manager. Gary Goddard actually came over to the county from the laboratory, and he did a lot of work over there at the lab, uh, doing building Uh, HVAC system.

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Uh, management, uh, and he… along… and with some help.

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Did kind of an audit of this building. Uh, to find out that as commonly happens after Systems with comp… after buildings with complicated HVAC systems are built and operating for a while.

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It's not operating very optimally. Um, I've forgotten exactly what numbers he… I had, but something… it was like the building was using something of order 25 or 30% more energy than such a building would be expected to.

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Depending on what reference plane you use. But anyway, he found a number of specific things that You know, just simple things like connections that were not connected anymore, and both mechanical and electrical, you know, things of that variety.

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So, he was doing it sort of as a pilot. To see what, um, how, uh, the county might save some building energy throughout its various buildings.

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Let me start it here, and apparently a few of the things have already been addressed, or are getting addressed, and They're trying to figure out how to address the rest of them, but… I thought it interesting that, uh, and not a big surprise, that, uh.

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This building, as an example, was using a good deal more energy than it should.

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Um, so, and… long-term… to… if you bring something like this back up to speed, then you have to have the technicians that really know how to manage a modern HVAC system.

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And how to keep it running at somewhere near optimal. Um, so… and that becomes a… a personnel challenge at, uh, at some level.

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Um, anyhow, I thought that, uh, that very interesting, and we'll… see what comes of it.

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So, that's the ESB liaison report. My apologies to the real ESB liaisons that I didn't do a better job of that, but… Moving on… Um, general board business.

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A BPU educational opportunity, a UAMP's annual conference Filo… Um, chair and members of the board, I received a… you know, save the date invitation for the… conference, uh… Last board member that attended was some years ago when we were heavy in the CFPP, but I think, uh.

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With the EDAM, uh… coming forward, it may be an opportune time for a board member or two to consider going.

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Because there'll definitely be some topics covered on that. Okay, and that is the 17th through the 19th of August, which is a Sunday through Tuesday.

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Um, with a regular board meeting the next night on Wednesday, the 20th.

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If that matters to anybody. Um, is there anyone present Presently, who is… Considering wanting to go to this.

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Don't all speak at once. I have maybe a… maybe some interest, but I won't say a lot yet. Okay.

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I think by bringing it up early, there's time. For the board to definitely… The June meeting would be the best time to… decide July would be a little late.

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Okay, that's helpful. All right.

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Next is status reports.

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When we discussed by request, hopefully everyone's had a chance to review them.

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Are there any questions, comments? On any of the status reports.

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Eric. Thank you, Chair Gibson. I have a question about the Electrical Reliability Report. First.

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I heard a rumor that I was, uh… P&M possibly might be… Uh, taking the opportunity, if there's a wildfire issue, to shut off power to us. Is that… True? Yes, uh… I know, um, reported that last month. It's called that Power Safety Shutoff.

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We had one leg, uh… shut down for a little period of time during the wind events that we had earlier this spring.

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And, uh, we had a… Our second feed was not impacted.

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Um, but it's possible. So, and in keeping with that, um, you know, looking at the city, I've always… I've always considered the Sadie to be a… Um, a measure of our system and our downtime. And so.

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My question is, if P&M shuts us down. Well then, is that going to count against our city, or are we going to account for that differently?

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We wouldn't count it in our city. Um, I've had discussions with the chair about how to report that.

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And trying to find… kind of a national standard for that, and… We're still, uh, searching for it. Uh, you know, in your current report, there's another measure that gets reported.

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Um, called the Katie. And so that… that's a… duration, but that's still within our system.

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Of the customers impacted, what was their average outage period? In time versus over the whole system.

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But, yeah, we're still trying to… we're struggling trying to find out if there's any… national averages, I mean, we know in California, they do these shutdowns very frequently, um… It may be kind of a new… data point that… So, between safety, Sadie, Katie, AC,

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Maybe I can creatively come up with a group of letters that would… Yes.

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We can put them on the jersey barriers in chalk. Okay. I like that idea, yeah. Okay, thank you, I appreciate that.

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For our own use, so it doesn't give any… reference to a standard or anything, couldn't we simply plot on the same chart Um, you know, the total outage Uh, and I think at times in the past, we've done something like that.

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Um, they said it wouldn't tell you how we compare to anybody else, but it would… It would show us what's actually happening to our customers. I think that would be fairly straightforward to do.

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Um, yeah, invite me, Steven Mars, if he has other ideas, but we've been discussing it internally.

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Um, you know, and then is it an average? We had one case where, you know, white White Rock was out. That wasn't our whole customer, so then it gets blended over the whole… group. That's when a KD would make more sense, but then it's a separate line, so…

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Well, that happens with Sadie, too, you know? Baranca Mesa goes out, but it shows up We see it here as an overall indicator, it's not, uh… you can always drill deeper if you need to, and actually you provide the information that

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The details that shows us the outages, but… You know, to get something out there that would be representative of what the customer sees, not just what we do.

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You know, we can't control what happens elsewhere, but… Um, it doesn't make a lot of sense to the customer to see that our SADI is 30 minutes when they… wait a minute, we've had big outages that have affected the whole town, some occasionally, and that were longer than that. What happened?

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Steve? Yes, Chair Gibson, board members. In the past, I did provide a second Um, Sadie, uh, report with CHART when it included those, uh.

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Lanl outages. Uh, but as a… Member Stromberg was stating that the Sadie that I calculate is just the reliability of our distribution system.

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And how we are holding up, uh, you know, compared to other utilities.

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Other utilities do not, uh, report their major events. You know, that are due to fires, storms, or other events, so they don't have those in their calculations either.

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No, but I can, if you, uh, would like, I will, uh… include a separate report, including those catastrophic outages. That way, uh, customers can see that.

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Well, as this one board member would appreciate that, if it's not much effort, and I don't think it is for you. Nope, can be done.

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Okay, I think I'm getting a thumbs up from… thumbs up and head… heads… nodding in favor of that. Thank you.

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Other issues or questions? Sure. I just wanted to outline a… trend we saw with backup incidents.

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And, uh, I worked with Clay's group. They actually developed a training program For vehicle safety.

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Um, it was all in his work group, so… uh, his superintendent put together a whole safety program, and at the safety committee meeting, we had a test, and went through our 10 questions.

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Um, but bottom line is, uh, having a spotter when backing up.

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No. You know, unless there's backup cameras, but there's… most of our equipment doesn't have them, so… So you jumped right ahead of me, because I was going to follow that one, but I saw it. We had… we've been addressing it.

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Okay, uh, does… I mean… are requiring a spotter, does that… prevent… People from working sometimes because there isn't a second person available.

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Or is there normally a second person available, such that wouldn't be of much of a problem?

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Normally, there's a second person available with tooto truck.

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Were these incidents all… let's see, one was actually at the wastewater plant.

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The other two, uh, um… See, those were not actually out on… They were in the yard in that. They were in the yard, so… So do you… There's plenty of people there in the yard. Okay, all right.

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Did you… did you talk about a spotter, uh, being required to win a dump truck bed is uplifted?

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That's a big issue also. He was there with the… his group.

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So, um, the… in the… in the backup bays, there are these large, um… pillars, and it leaves very little room for the service trucks to come in.

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And if you start cutting it. A little too quickly, it's easy to graze them, and that's what… that's what's happened in the past. They've… they've generally hit the mirrors.

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I mean, they have… they have basically… 4 inches on either side to back up.

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So the guys have to, like, make sure that… that they're leaving space out of those pillars, and so that's been the issue in the past. This isn't the first time they've… they've… they've kind of grazed those, but… Um, generally speaking, you know.

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These guys have a lot of things on their mind, and they'll go into the, uh… warehouse and be getting fittings and things like that, and if they're by… if they're… get… jumping in, and they're thinking, I need to get to the job, and people are calling them and all that kind of stuff

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The whole point has been stop, take a second, you're about to put that thing in reverse, have somebody back there that doesn't get in the truck right away to make sure that you're clear. Because those service trucks, you know, they have those big…

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Tool bins and everything, and it's hard to see. What's going on, so that's why we've… we've had to say, alright.

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You know, your secondary crew member needs to help you back up.

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Um, when they have the bed up and things like that, and the vector, they now know that they can't be, uh, doing those kinds of things without multiple spotters looking at it, because it's the upper… the upper corners that are the problem. And so, yeah, that's… that's been added to it as well, yeah.

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Um, the one at the wastewater plant was actually the front-end loader.

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Doing a repetitious, uh, movement, and it hit the… the, well, you know, the scarab that turns over the compost windrows, and they were doing the same thing just over and over, and I think as the… as the, uh, wind row.

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Started to get to a certain point. You know, he just moved a couple of inches every single time, and he backed up just a little bit, and hit the… hit the, um, one of the… tail light lenses.

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Yeah, there was a dump truck in Morton Dad Canyon some years ago that was… The bed was up because it was releasing whatever it was, crushed rock or asphalt, whatever it was.

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And, uh, ran into a power line. And even though there were signs there, you know, power line above, and then I think one of the internet outages we had was a dump truck with the bed up that ran into a fiber optic line in Santa Fe. And so, yeah, whenever there's a bed up, and you know, the operator is looking at the road ahead.

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There should always be a spotter. Yeah. If the trunk is moving. Yeah, we've… we've actually… I mean, all the… some of the older guys remember hitting things with… with the dump bed up, and it's… and it's actually come fairly close to hitting something fairly recently, so…

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Yeah, that's… that's another… that was almost a whole other process that we need to have two people. Anytime there's a dump bed, two people need to go make a check. So it's something that we're gonna have to remind them with every, uh, staff meeting.

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Yeah, because it's been a problem in the past as well. So just to ask the obvious, I guess these trucks just don't have any cameras on them at all? Not really, you know, the problem is with cameras, you start adding complexity to something. I mean, already… I mean, it's hard to keep, you know, a thick steel bed from being destroyed. I mean, any technology

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Or, uh, or cameras or anything on them. You know, they just kind of, by nature.

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Their uses… their usage life is rough.

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And so adding technology and sensitive things like that is just more problems.

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Um, so the really… and sometimes you get… I mean, we've all been guilty of it, like.

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I mean, you know, you start to rely on that backup camera.

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And not having full 360-degree awareness becomes a bit of a problem, especially with the larger type of vehicles, and um… so it really needs to be a manual process that they get used to, and having two spotters, because it's those upper things. I mean, you'd have to have a whole bunch of cameras on some of the equipment that they have.

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So, you know, just having the spotters is the best way to do it.

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Yep. Thank you.

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Anything else on the reports? Thanks for being… proactive on that, dealing with those issues, and… Hopefully we won't see those again.

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All right, that moves us on to the tickler file. Um…

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See, there's a few odds and ends in here that we'll need to change.

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Um… At our next meeting… That won't be the final review, that'll be the first review of the Board of Public Utilities annual presentation to Council. Then we'll do the final review at the regular meeting next month.

01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:33.000
Um, do need to check on availability for a closed session. We're having one after this meeting.

01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:46.000
Uh, we'll need one more, and I, uh… Just like the… I got some responses… to the email query on um, availability.

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Uh, the 4th of June didn't look very good. But I'd like to check on… both that and the, uh… Uh, 20… Since the 25th, the regular meeting.

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25th, yes. The regular meeting, uh, for availability for closed session.

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In association with either of those. I have a general… concern I want to raise. I'd like to… I'm looking at the 4th and the 25th. I'd like to get some stuff moved off, because I just don't want to be here till…

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Fuck at night. And, um, so I think… You know, we've… my whole time on the board, we've grown and grown and grown and grown in terms of time and meetings, so… So, uh, I can be here on the… for a closed session, but I… I think I look at the list of stuff for the 4th alone, and I think it's just going to be way too long.

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You know, and so, can we move some stuff off, down the agenda?

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Uh, down into, you know, July or August or something. And the 25th is also looking fairly… fairly… fairly robust.

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Will, it's a good time to raise that, because our monthly scheduling meeting is this Friday. Excellent. I wanted to put that out there. The, uh… Um, so… finished before Charlie's bedtime.

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What time zone are you in? Um, so, back to the question of data availability. I know you're out of town on the 4th.

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I'm out of town on the 4th. And you're out of town on the 4th?

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Um, you're here, and Matt, are you here in the fourth?

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You're under… okay. Okay, so that was going to be my next question. More concerned about the main meeting.

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Uh, you can meet by Zoom. Can you join us by Zoom on the 4th? Um… There's a possibility. Okay, so at least we do have a quorum, we can have a meeting.

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Um, and it's too bad we're gonna miss at least one, maybe two people for the… presentation on the electrification study, but… You can catch up. Okay, so on the 4th, we do have a quorum for the work session that evening. That sounds like a terrible evening to have a closed session.

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So, uh, we'll probably wind up with a closed session on the 25th.

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Uh, either before or after Depending. Um… Okay.

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That addresses that for now. Thank you.

01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:34.000
Sorry, Chair Gibson, did most people prefer the before or the after? Because I think you had asked that.

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As well. I think I got kind of mixed, but not… mixed responses, and not everybody answered.

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Yeah, part of the problem for me is I can almost never do it before. It's too early.

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So, yeah, okay. I can do it maybe half the time before, it depends on where it falls, because I have bi-weekly meetings at that time.

01:32:54.000 --> 01:33:02.000
So it's hit or miss. Okay, so… before is not generally a very good idea.

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We have to stay up late, or get this meeting over early.

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Um, we'll try that tonight, see if we can accomplish that.

01:33:12.000 --> 01:33:17.000
Okay, uh… Thanks for expressing your concern, Charlie. We'll do the best we can.

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Without pushing too much, too far off, we have to have… extra meetings, which nobody likes either.

01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:39.000
Okay, um… Let's see… that's the fourth. We have, uh… Um, meeting on the 25th, we can delete recognition of departing board member.

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Okay, there you go. Saved a bunch of time here. Thank you. See, no root beer floats.

01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:56.000
The, um… Maybe we should just celebrate his 5 years of service.

01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:05.000
Looking for an excuse for a party. There will be the final approval of presentation to Council that evening.

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And then on our meeting of the 16th, we don't have to have an introduction of a new board member.

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Eric gets a haircut and we don't recognize him. Could happen.

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The, uh, um… on a parking lot.

01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:36.000
Uh, annual Lentl presentation, do we have any hints as to when that might actually happen?

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No, sir. Okay. Other things that people would like to add, change?

01:34:45.000 --> 01:34:52.000
Or otherwise… otherwise would have an effect on our tickler file.

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This is a great time to bring them up, so we can get them on the agenda.

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Or some agenda.

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If you think of anything, I close the business tomorrow, let us know, because we're meeting first thing Friday morning. So the ECA thing is scheduled for the 31st, but that's… unclear, right? Yeah, that's a parking lot thing as well. The, uh… When do we have to have an approval on that?

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By the end of December? Okay, so we've got the whole calendar. Well, the council has to approve it by then. We have to act before Before then. Before then.

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Do you have any sense of when… I mean, is it a summer, a fall thing? You know, or…? I'm told we'll get terms and conditions to review in July. Okay, summer thing, okay. It'll be in August, probably.

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Before I can get it… before the best point.

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Okay, anything else on the tickler for now? I said, if you think of something after you walk out.

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Let Fiverr know before Friday morning. And with that, we will ask again for… Or open the… make the floor available again for public comment.

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Is there any in chambers? I don't see any… any online?

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Okay, with that, we are adjourned. Thank you. Is that early enough, truly?

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Okay, that's